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GM Sucks - Cars I love/Cars I hate - Automotive Forums .com- A Message Board for Every Make and Model: "'GM is back??? LEt's see now. They killed the Camaro and Firebird, they have the ancient, lumbering FWD sedans- Cavalier, Seville, Deville, Century, Le Sabre, Regal, Grand Prix, Grand Am etc. they are importing a Daewoo as a Chevy, they have the Australian Monaro as the Pontiac GTO, the Opel CTS (Doesn't quite hold the candle to it's competition), the overpriced XLR, there is the ugly AND overpriced SSR and a range of shonky Utes and SUV's. Looks like they're on thier way down. They've already lost a lot of market share and it isn't hard to see why.'"

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Newspaper Archive: "DETROIT General Motors Corp.'s massive recall Thursday of nearly 4 million full-size trucks the latest in a string of vehicle recalls could hinder the automaker's effort to overcome a reputation for mediocre quality. "

Newspaper Archive: "The all-new 2004 GMC Envoy XUV is one of those vehicle concepts that sounds great ? on paper ? but whose execution leaves much to be desired. What sets the Envoy XUV apart from the competition is a sliding rear roof and tailgate that turn this sport utility vehicle into a faux pickup with an open cargo bay, but enclosed rear windows. The XUV also features a sliding 'midgate' that seals off the rest of the cabin from the rear cargo compartment and the outside elements. "

Leaking water and sucking dust like a sieve!!!

Newspaper Archive: "MILFORD ? Hoping to overcome negative consumer feedback and improve a key product amid stiff new competition, General Motors Corp. and brake supplier Robert Bosch AG have teamed up to develop a new braking system for the 2005 GMC Sierra and Chevrolet Silverado pickup trucks. The new brakes will allow drivers to stop or slow more quickly while applying less pressure on the pedal. The Silverado and Sierra are two of GM's best-selling and profitable vehicles"

Will it ever stop sqeaking???????
Well chev!

Newspaper Archive: "Chevrolet says it's aiming the Avalanche at males who 'use their truck as a tool.' We think the 2002 Avalanche is more toy than tool -- and an expensive toy at that, considering the $36,168 sticker on our four-wheel-drive test vehicle. We also think the Avalanche -- essentially a short-bed pickup version of the big Suburban utility vehicle -- is still a product in search of a market. We just wonder how much of a market there really is for an overgrown Tonka truck."

Newspaper Archive: "Not too long ago, Chevrolet engineers went snowshoeing in Aspen, Colo., with a group of designers and athletes from The North Face, the San Leandro, Calif. maker of rugged outdoor gear and apparel. On the challenging trek, they bonded and brainstormed about co-creating the ultimate outdoor vehicle. 'It would be pretty cool,' said Tony Posawatz, assistant vehicle line executive on the 2002 Chevrolet Avalanche, who attended the unusual business gathering. The group's fantasy, well lets just say they designed to profit from all of you "

Value was never the goal, profit was.

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Leftbanker: 07/01/2002 - 07/31/2002: "A while back I was sitting in a cafe with a woman I know when a new Chevy Avalanche SUV drove past spewing emissions. This SUV has all sorts of rubber sidewalls to protect it from the harsh elements soccer moms are likely to encounter at the mall. My friend commented that it looked like a piece of Tupperware. I doubt this is the macho image that Chevy had in mind.

The print ad for the Avalanche goes like this: The Avalanche can handle everything you'll need on your next journey. I've never taken a 'journey' before but this ad assumes that whoever buys this over-powered piece of Tupperware has already taken at least one journey and plans another as soon as they sign over their life to own this ridiculous vehicle. How I envy these intrepid journey-takers.

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chevrolet-avalanche: "Part of GM's problem is that it suffers from $1,100 in legacy costs for each of its vehicles made. Legacy costs are the pension and health care costs generated by a million or so retirees and dependents. The Japanese competitors don't labor under this handicap. Hence, GM can not charge more for its vehicles but has this additional overhead burden. As an offset, it has squeezed its parts suppliers into lowering their prices. They have complied under pressure but consequently produce cheaper and inferior parts which find their way into GM products. The dealers are satisfied with this situation because part of their profits are earned from their service shops which stay busy. That is my editorial for the day!' "

Tire Failure -Crashworthiness: "When tires are being inflated the sidewall of the tire can explode, causing a sidewall zipper failure. Sidewall zipper failures occur because the sidewall design and manufacturing. Deflating a tire can add stress when the tire is reinflated and cause a blowout. Manufacturers deal with this tire failure by issuing warnings instead of changing the tire designs. Bead failures also occur during the inflation of the tire, and the explosion bead failures cause often times result in serious and deadly conditions. Bead fractures usually occur at the splice joint, which combined with the low-pressure explosion causes the trajectory of the rim and the tire to sever limbs, cause brain trauma, and smash facial bones.
Tire failures can occur when there is a high-speed spin-off failure, happening when one of the two rear wheels is stationary and the other wheel can spin without restraint due to a design defect. Ozone cracking is an uncommon tire failure, but small cracks on the rubber's surface due mainly to atmospheric ozone breaks down tire sidewalls. Manufacturing defects are normally to blame in cases of ozone cracking."

Tire Failure -Crashworthiness: "Another type of tire failure that can occur is when a multi-piece wheel is used. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration wanted to ban multi-piece rims, but the tire and wheel industry was able to sponsor an education program at work and avoid the ban. OSHA guidelines require using a safety cage during tire mounting operations, but after the wheel is removed from the safety cage accidents still happen. Posters that were designed for the education program are now in most service stations and tire shops, but now the liability of the tire failures become the business' responsibility, as well as employers and injured employees. Tire manufacturers are able to avoid complete liability now because of the educational program. A single piece wheel has been around for decades that would avoid multi-piece rim explosions, yet the design has not been incorporated."

Tire Failure -Crashworthiness: "Another type of tire failure that can occur is when a multi-piece wheel is used. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration wanted to ban multi-piece rims, but the tire and wheel industry was able to sponsor an education program at work and avoid the ban. OSHA guidelines require using a safety cage during tire mounting operations, but after the wheel is removed from the safety cage accidents still happen. Posters that were designed for the education program are now in most service stations and tire shops, but now the liability of the tire failures become the business' responsibility, as well as employers and injured employees. Tire manufacturers are able to avoid complete liability now because of the educational program. A single piece wheel has been around for decades that would avoid multi-piece rim explosions, yet the design has not been incorporated."

Tire Failure -Crashworthiness: "Currently, light truck tires and passenger tires do not use the new technology that has been designed to prevent tread separation from occurring. This new type of manufacturing tire has been around for years now, yet it has not been incorporated because of the additional cost of production that it will bring. The tire design prevents tread separation because it surrounds the belt plies that are below the tread with a nylon cap to add a layer between the steel belt and the road to better withstand moisture. This nylon cap also creates additional stability to the interior tire"

Tire Failure -Crashworthiness: "There are different types of tire failures that can occur. One of the most common types of tire failure is due to a tread separation. Tread separation is the result of the plies of a tire separating from one another. When tires are built there are different layers.
An assembled tire is exposed to high temperatures and pressure to cure the assembly, which bonds all the layers. Steel belts are sometimes incorporated into the steel belted radial tire for more impact and puncture resistance. Unfortunately the addition of the steel belt will not stick to the rubber compounds unless the manufacturers coat the steel wires before putting them into the construction of the tire, but the difference in the steel and rubber makes tread separation for all steel belted radial tires possible. Tread separation possibility becomes greater as the speed of the vehicle increases."

GMC Recalls - Recall and Defect Information - Crashworthiness: "GMC has recalled 546,000 2000 and 2001 Chevrolet Blazer, GMC Jimmy, and Oldsmobile Bravada SUVs because of brake and hazard light failures"

GMC Recalls - Recall and Defect Information - Crashworthiness: "NHTSA reported that GMC has recalled about 1,530 affected 1999 Chevrolet T series trucks. The recalled Chevrolets were manufactured between September 1998 and August 2000 because of a condition of premature wear in the clutch master-cylinder pushrod end that attaches to the clutch pedal pin. If the GMC clutch pedal does not return completely to the full-up position this may indicate future problems because the fast-idle engine speed control may not function correctly. Significant clutch master-cylinder pushrod end wear can lead to the attaching end to bend open or even break completely off and the pedal pin will detach from the clutch rod link and engage the clutch. If this occurs, when brakes are not applied the GMC truck could move forward if the transmission is in a forward gear or move backwards if the transmission is in reverse gear. The GMC Chevrolet owners will be notified beginning April."

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2003 GMC Sierra / Chevrolet Silverado 4X4 Pickups Front End Vibration: "COMMON COMPLAINTS
4WD Light on?
4 x 4 not working?
Engine Knock
Front End Vibration
Rotational noise in the front end when they are in 2X4
No fix available "

2003 GMC Sierra / Chevrolet Silverado 4X4 Pickups Front End Vibration

Chevrolet was born of financial problems and disagreements: "Chevrolet was born of financial problems and disagreements"

Chevrolet Blazer Reviews: "Weaknesses:
obvious problems with wheel bearings, brakes, sensor issues, general design flaws and lack of acknowledgement of problems by GM"

Chevrolet Blazer Reviews: "The overall quality found in these vehicles is questionable. The Blazer is early in its life. The key to buying a Blazer, Jimmy, or Bravada is to obtain a huge discount. Since this will be the last year for the S10 Blazer, there won't be any new ones left by the end of the year. The resale values plummet for these SUVs because of their problemmatic parts quality. The engineering and workmanship leaves much to be desired as well. Still, if the discount compared to a similar 4Runner or Pathfinder is large enough (at least a 30% differential), GMs products should be considered. Please remember that GM does not stand behind its products beyond meeting basic warranty needs. It also can be rather surly when dealing with individual customers (conclusions reached from discussing my Jimmy's ongoing oil leak with GM employees). Part of GM's problem is that it suffers from $1,100 in legacy costs for each of its vehicles made. Legacy costs are the pension and health care costs generated by a million or so retirees and dependents. The Japanese competitors don't labor under this handicap. Hence, GM can not charge more for its vehicles but has this additional overhead burden. As an offset, it has squeezed its parts suppliers into lowering their prices. They have complied under pressure but consequently produce cheaper and inferior parts which find their way into GM products. The dealers are satisfied with this situation because part of their profits are earned from their service shops which stay busy. That is my editorial for the day!"

Consumer complaints about Chevrolet Suburban - Miscellaneous Problems

Consumer complaints about Chevrolet Suburban - Miscellaneous Problems: "Jill of Modesto, CA, writes:
We have had endless problems with our 1999 Suburban. We purchased this vehicle as new. We have taken our Suburban to the service dept. eight times since January 1999. Some of the services were for the same recurring problems and others were for new major problems, such as a recent leaking transfer case. This vehicle only has approx. 20,000 miles.
The last four times we have taken our vehicle in for service has been primarily for a popping sound in the front end which is heard when driving up a sidewalk curb or merely when turning the wheel to back out of a parking space. This popping sound is very loud and an obvious indication of something not right in the front end. The last time we took it in, we told the service consultant we did not want the vehicle back until this was corrected. " After two days I received a call from Robert in service, he told me again that their service techs can hear the popping but this time they are unable to locate the problem. I again told him fix it before you call for me to pick it up.

After three days Robert called again telling me they pinpointed the problem at the passenger front door hinge. We were very skeptical of this finding, especially when the noise comes from the left lower floorboard area. However we wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Unfortunately, the popping was heard once again as we pulled into our driveway directly after picking up our vehicle from the service dept. Being without a vehicle so many times, with a houseful of children (I run a daycare) has became an issue with my business. I need a large vehicle to transport children to and from school.

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Consumer complaints about Chevrolet Suburban - Miscellaneous Problems: " bought a new 2002 Chevrolet Suburban it was equipped with Goodyear AT/S. I noticed excessive wear on the inside of both rear tires including cupping on the inside. Alignment was checked at the dealership and an independent shop. Both disagreed the allignment was within specifications. The independent shop said the tires were the problem and another independent tire shop made the same statement earlier."

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "This table lists costs of likely repairs for comparison with other vehicles. The dollar amount includes the cost of the part(s) and labor (based on $50 per hour) for the typical repair without extras or add-ons. Like the pricing information, replacement costs can vary widely depending on region. Expect charges at a new-car dealership to be slightly higher. "

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "Water leak: A water and dust leak at the rear corner of the cargo box requires resealing of the catch cup. "

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "Transmission slippage: The transmission may slip or there may be no 3rd or 4th gear (possibly accompanied by illumination of the 'check engine' light) due to plugging of one of the shift solenoid valves."

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "Engine noise: Some of the rocker-arm bearings may fail. The first indication may be needle bearings found in the oil when it is drained. All 16 rocker arms should be replaced."

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "Engine noise: Due to corrosion of the knock sensor on the rear bank, the 5.7-litre engine may suffer from spark knock (ping) that gets worse on hard acceleration, illuminating the 'check engine' light. "

2002-03 Chevrolet Avalanche Review, Rating, Prices: Consumer Guide�: "Engine knock: The engine (4.8L, 5.3L, or 6.0L) may knock for up to 30 seconds after a cold start. GM says this may be due to carbon buildup and is reportedly not harmful to the engine."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "It is my feeling that GM is completely aware of the problem with the Dexcool, as they have sent out TSB's on it, and that they are also aware of problems with other components that are tied to the problem. And, they won't admit it or do anything about it."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Dorothy of Baltimore (8/29/00):
In August 1999, my Chevy S-10 Blazer 4WD overheated on a business trip to Savannah. I had it towed to Darryl Burke Chevrolet. They stated that, for unknown reasons, the antifreeze had gotten junked up and the system needed to flushed & refilled. They had never seen this before. Four days later, it overheated on the way back to North Carolina from Savannah."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "At this point, I have a Blazer that overheats, doesn't have any heater, and will no doubt have other problems before I can get rid of it. The dealer and GM want me to pay over a thousand dollars to fix a problem that is apparently inherent in their design. And the solution that I've been given isn't guaranteed to fix all the problems."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Andras of Chula Vista CA (11/28/01):
We purchased a 1998 Chevrolet Blazer from Bob Baker Chevrolet in El Cajon, California, in early 2000. The vehicle had 40,000 miles on it, was in good shape, and according to the dealer, had just had a complete service. At about 70,000 miles, the car started to shift hard between first and second after it had been driven for a while. When it cooled down (that's subjective - the temperature gauge never moved) the problem went away. I checked the fluid levels - all were good - then opened the radiator. I was suprised to discover that the radiator was filled with brown sludge, especially as the car used Dexcool - a 100,000 mile/no service needed coolant."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Justin of Little Elm TX (1/25/03):
I purchased a 1998 Chevrolet Tahoe from Classic Chevrolet with 45k miles. I also purchased a 2-year, 20k extended warranty. About 3-4k miles out of warranty, my truck began to overheat. I took it to a mechanic who checked the cooling system and replaced the water pump, flushed the system, and pressure tested it for leaks, refilling it with the Dexcool orange coolant GM demands you use. At 74k miles, I am now told I have to replace the intake gasket, for $650. This is a widespread problem and I believe my engine may have damage due to the coolant leaking into the engine.
Thousands of these incidents have happened and GM denies any problem exists."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Brian of Albany NY (10/3/02):
I encountered the Extended Life Engine Coolant Dex-Cool failure in my 1996 Chevrolet Blazer in May 2001 and am dealing with the issue still. GM will not recognize their manufacturing defect. Two undisclosed firms are investigating for a possible Class Action Lawsuit against GM."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Damage Resulting: Engine failure due to misleading statements by GM's owner's manual. The Dexcool coolant appears fail before it stated life expectence. I can't afford to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to repair my vehicles with misrepresentations."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Damage Resulting: Repair of cooling system in vehicle, at a cost of approximately $930, primarily labor charges, and replacement of intake manifold gasket, several other gaskets, and thermostat. "

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Jeffrey of Edison NJ (3/5/03):
At 78k miles, we experienced coolant leakage and failure of the intake manifold gasket on our 1996 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. Repair cost was over $900. It appears there is a problem in GM vehicles of this vintage, with possible correlation to the DexCool coolant which GM requires us to use in these vehicles."

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "Most recently I had to take my car to be reparied while on a trip out of town which cost me $291.00 3/28/03. I traveled home aprox. 200 mies did not use car over weekend and when I got in car to drive today 3/31/03 had the same gauge spiking check engine overheating and smell of atifreeze problem. This is in less than 3 days after having car worked on. "

Consumer complaints about DexCool in GM Engines: "John of Conway PA writes Z(3/31/03):
Since we purchased our 1996 Blazer used in 2000 from a Chevy Dealership, we have had nothing but coloant problems. We have taken the car into the shop at least 10 times for the same repairs. Problems we had were spiking of thermostat, overheating, smell of antifreeze in car, foggy windows caused from antifreeze vapors coming in car from defrosts."

Open Roads Forum : 1984 6.2 Diesel: "Quote:

big al 98
The 6.2 is a gas engine modified to a diesel. The bottom ends are their weak point. I had one(two) in a Suburban. Blew the first one in cold weather, the second one dropped the front main bearing cap on a no load summer cruise. Threw the whole mess away.
BTC

No, the 5.7 diesel was based on a gas engine. The 6.2 was 100% diesel. One of the worst engines ever put in a truck IMHO.... No power, mucho smoke in stock form. It was made to equal the 350 gas engine. Don't expect much from a stock 6.2 diesel, even those with a Banks turbo didn't put out much. "

TriplePlate.com - Chev Malibu -- Muffler problems(?): "Aye, you guys seem to already have this down.

And GM parts a a rip."

TriplePlate.com - Chev Malibu -- Muffler problems(?): "Yeah, I can second that.

I say never go to a dealership to get your car fixed, unless it's under warrantee.

Dealerships here charge around $80/hour for labor. Most private shops charge closer to $50/hour. On a 10 hour job, that can be a huge difference.

And, unless the GM parts are stainless steel, it's definitely a rip off."

Not sure if this is the right forum or not,

My mother just took her malibu into the local dealer to get her oil changed and they tell her her muffler is connected to a pipe underneath and they say the whole thing needs to be replaced, they quted her something like $500+ (CDN) dollars to use "GM" parts and $260CDN for aftermarket parts. I have a haunting suspicion she is getting ripped off but I have no knowledge of cars at the moment, can anyone recommend perhaps shed some light on this situation?

Reply
Ya, forget taking it to GM if the warranty won't cover it. Tell her to take it to a muffler shop like Midas, for they have pretty consistent fees and you don't have to worry about getting ripped off if you have no clue on the matter.

Books: There are plenty out there, depending on how in depth you want to go.

Online: http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/tech_index.htm
also http://www.howstuffworks.com

But remember, we here are ready to answer any of your questions.

First big tow, bad result. : "JMac24
Towed down to Vegas from NW Washington this past week. Tow down went well, lost power on one pass, then it was fine. On the way back? POP. Down she went. Middle of Nevada. 30 miles outside Hawthorne. I called for roadside assistance they said to keep driving. Right. I can only go 30 MPH MAYBE. Anyway. Limped in. They cant get me a tow till the AM. I call in the AM, 4 hours later a wrecker shows. I go to Fallon NV 70 mi away. Blown Turbo. We might have one by Monday. Im screwed. Thankfully I was traveling with my Stepdad an Mom. Took his trailer to Fallon, came back got mine, stored it and rode home with them. Now I get to fly back next weekend and pick everything back up and Chev MIGHT pay for it by my dealer doesnt think so. NEAT."

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